schlomoseamus ([info]schlomoseamus) wrote,
@ 2007-03-06 07:18:00
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The Ballad of Robbie and Christy
A consumer class action lawsuit is the new ambulance chasing. It's just brutal. Here's the proposition:

a) A corporation does something stupid and/or venal
b) Somebody notices and gets mad. They don't get a good answer from the corporation, so
c) They sue or are urged to sue
d) The case is settled.

That's how most of us think it should go, right? Justice should be served.

But here's the crazy part about consumer class action lawsuits: in order to give them teeth lawyers in the case claim to represent anyone who has used the service that created the lawsuit, thus increasing the size of the claim until the corporation takes notice. That means when the claim is settled, all of us poor saps gots to get paid for the perceived loss in value described in the lawsuit.

So you get a check for twenty bucks, right? No. In a remarkable use of loopholes companies can legally recompensate all claimants through substitution of services that they already provide. Here's the list of all the stuff I got in the last two years:

-- Two free weeks on a dating service website. Of course, by then I was engaged to be married
-- A free month membership from Netflix. Of course, I was already a member
-- A twenty dollar credit towards a cell phone calling plan that I had to commit to a year to use. Nah.
-- A free credit score (that was the one that came today and initiated this rant)

It's the lawsuit rebate scam! This is still okay, and fairly funny. Corporations will change their behavior, some people get some free stuff, fine. But this is the last paragraph of the lawsuit description that I got today from the firm managing the suit:

Counsel for the Settlement Class have pursued the Litigation on a contingent basis and have paid all the costs of the Litigation. These lawyers have not yet been paid or recovered any of their expenses. As part of the Settlement, Class Counsel will seek up to $4.0 million in attorneys’ fees and expenses. The Court will determine a reasonable fee and expense award at the Fairness Hearing based on Class Counsel’s Fee and Expense Application and responses thereto. Defendants will not oppose Class Counsel’s Fee and Expense Application. Class Counsel will also ask the Court to approve a $7,500 Incentive Award to each of the Plaintiffs (Robbie Hillis and Christy Slack).

So here's how this plays out:
1) Equifax pays $4 million in cash to the lawyers
2) People like me get limited vouchers for products and services from a company
3) Robbie Hillis and Christy Slack -- the original plaintiffs -- get $7,500 each. AND THAT'S ALL THEY GET.

The law firm representing the plaintiffs is using all us to drum up a lawsuit so that they can take home half of the projected winnings, leaving the original plaintiffs with table scraps and the rest of the "plaintiffs" -- us -- with a bunch of essentially irredeemable coupons.

You know, I'm really bullish on lawsuits to keep corporations in line. But that sucks SO much.


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[info]la_chispa
2007-03-06 02:40 pm UTC (link)
Would you mind if I blogged this over at [info]dollars_sense?

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[info]schlomoseamus
2007-03-06 05:17 pm UTC (link)
Not at all. Do I get a useless coupon for services or goods in exchange?

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[info]la_chispa
2007-03-07 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Certainly. We'll let you give gift subscriptions to Dollars & Sense for only $10!

Also, here's the post: http://www.dollarsandsense.org/blog/2007/03/its-lawsuit-rebate-scam.html

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Almost got me.
(Anonymous)
2007-03-07 04:27 am UTC (link)
Just got the email today.


Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:50 AM
From: Hillis Slack Settlement Notice <hillisslacknotice@tgcginc.com> Add to
To: Add to Addresses
Subject: Federal Court's Notice of Proposed Class Action Settlement. Please

A FEDERAL COURT ORDERED THIS NOTICE. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION FROM A LAWYER. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION FROM EQUIFAX OR FAIR ISAAC TO PURCHASE ANYTHING.

You may be eligible to receive a benefit from a class action settlement if you purchased, paid for and received a credit score or credit monitoring offering from an Equifax website (Equifax.com), Equifax entity, Fair Isaac website (myFICO.com) or a reseller of the Suze Orman FICO® Kit between November 19, 1999 and February 8, 2007.

A federal court has directed that this notice be sent to inform you of a proposed class action settlement. Records show that you entered into an agreement with an Equifax and/or Fair Isaac entity (including through a website) between November 19, 1999 and February 8, 2007 to purchase one or more of the following "Offerings": Score Power®; Credit WatchTM; Score WatchTM; 3-in-1 Monitoring; Credit RankingsTM with Score Power®; Credit RankingsTM with 3-in-1 with Score Power®; Credit RankingsTM with Credit Report; Credit RankingsTM with 3-in-1; 3-in-1 with Score Power®; Score Power® by mail; Credit WatchTM by mail; FICO® Score (with Equifax, TransUnion or Experian reports); FICO® Deluxe; Suze Orman FICO® Kit; CreditSync; and Credit Advantage. If so, you may be eligible to receive a benefit under the proposed Settlement.

The Settlement will resolve two lawsuits in which claims are made that Equifax Consumer Services, Inc. ("Equifax") and Fair Isaac Corporation ("Fair Isaac") (collectively, the "Defendants") violated the federal Credit Repair Organizations Act and similar state laws. Under the Settlement, the Defendants deny that they are liable, but have agreed to make certain changes to the Offerings and to the advertising and marketing of the Offerings. In addition, a Settlement Class member who purchased an Offering from one of the Defendants will receive 3 free months of Score Watch from that Defendant. A Settlement Class member who purchased an Offering from both of the Defendants will receive 3 free months of Score Watch from each of the Defendants for a total of 6 months of Score Watch. You will not be required to purchase anything. These benefits are truly free. All that is necessary is for you to fill out an Authentication Form to protect your privacy rights. Score Watch is a valuable benefit.

Score Watch™ is offered for sale by both Equifax and Fair Isaac. It monitors a consumer's Equifax credit file and FICO® score, and provides up to two Equifax Score Power reports. The current retail value of Score Watch™ is approximately $7.95-8.95 per month.

To see if you are a Class Member and to obtain a full Notice of the proposed Settlement, the required procedures, the Effective Date, the deadlines, your obligations, and your options, you must visit www.hillisslacksettlement.com. This email is only a brief summary of the full Notice that is posted on the website. You may also obtain the full Notice by calling the Settlement Administrator at 800-262-0454 or writing the Settlement Administrator at Hillis Slack Settlement, c/o The Garden City Group, Inc., P.O. Box 9114, Dublin, OH 43017-4114.


SUMMARY OF YOUR OPTIONS

1. PARTICIPATE IN THE SETTLEMENT AND SUBMIT AN AUTHENTICATION FORM

In order to receive the free months of Score Watch, you need only submit an Authentication Form either on-line or by mail. An Authentication Form may be obtained on-line at www.hillisslacksettlement.com, by calling 1-800-262-0454 or by sending a written request to the Settlement Administrator at Hillis Slack Settlement, www.hillisslacksettlement.com. Do not contact the Court.

2. EXCLUDE YOURSELF FROM THE SETTLEMENT

This is the only option that allows you to bring your own lawsuit against Equifax and Fair Isaac over the claims in this case. Your request for exclusion must be mailed to the Settlement Administrator and postmarked on or before May 4, 2007. Do not contact the Court.

3. OBJECT TO OR COMMENT ON THE SETTLEMENT/ATTEND THE HEARING

blah, blah....
www.hillisslacksettlement.com.

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Exactly the same solicitation for another suit
(Anonymous)
2007-05-11 03:22 pm UTC (link)
Funny, I just got one today that reads exactly the same - only the names have been changed. Looks like they have this down to a science.

Robert V. Townes, IV v. TransUnion, LLC and TrueLink, Inc., Case No. 04-1488 (USDC, District of Delaware)

A FEDERAL COURT ORDERED THIS NOTICE. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION FROM A LAWYER. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION FROM TRANSUNION OR TRUELINK TO PURCHASE ANYTHING.

PLEASE READ.

You may be eligible to receive a benefit from a class action settlement if you purchased, you or a third party paid for, and you received a credit score, credit monitoring, or other offering from a TransUnion or TrueLink website (truecredit.com, transunion.com, transunioncs.com, knowyourloanrate.com and freecreditprofile.com) between December 1, 1999 and April 16, 2007.
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ATTORNEYS' FEES, EXPENSES AND INCENTIVE AWARD

Counsel for the Settlement Class have pursued the Litigation on a contingent basis and have paid all the costs of the Litigation. These lawyers have not yet been paid or recovered any of their expenses. As part of the Settlement, Class Counsel will seek up to $1.3 million in attorneys' fees and expenses. The Court will determine a reasonable fee and expense award at the Fairness Hearing based on Class Counsel's Fee and Expense Application and responses thereto. Defendants will not oppose Class Counsel's Fee and Expense Application. Class Counsel will also ask the Court to approve a $7,500 Incentive Award to the Plaintiff Robert V. Townes, IV. None of these payments will reduce the benefits you receive. Any money the Court awards Class Counsel and the Plaintiff will be paid by the Defendants.

Etc...

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Re: Exactly the same solicitation for another suit
[info]schlomoseamus
2007-05-11 03:58 pm UTC (link)
AAAAGGGHH!

Are there any lawyers out there who would like to comment on all this?

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Re: Exactly the same solicitation for another suit
(Anonymous)
2007-05-16 11:39 am UTC (link)
I got that same one as this one for several days now. i'm thinking this may be a scam more than anything. a new phishing technique. while trying to investigate the legitimacy of mine, i came across this blog. i've decided to write to scopes.com

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Re: Exactly the same solicitation for another suit
[info]schlomoseamus
2007-05-16 01:24 pm UTC (link)
Let me know what you find out!

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Class Action
(Anonymous)
2007-05-15 02:00 pm UTC (link)
That's why you opt out and sue separately after they have already settled the class action. Assuming of course, that you have a legitimate case.

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Re: Class Action
[info]schlomoseamus
2007-05-15 06:12 pm UTC (link)
What is the level of success of those suits? It seems like the crux of both these lawsuits is that the actual violations are only egregious in sum, but trivial when viewed at the individual level. What are the chances of such lawsuits getting traction from single individuals?

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(Anonymous)
2007-06-21 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Just got my copy of this in snail-mail. Thanks for blogging about it. I wsn't sure if it was creative phising or a sad rip-off of (us) plaintiffs.

I see it's both.

Guess I'll "Do Nothing - DO NOT CALL THE COURTS." haha!

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postcard format
(Anonymous)
2007-06-21 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Just got my copy of this in snail-mail. Thanks for blogging about it. I wasn't sure if it was creative phishing or a sad rip-off of (us) plaintiffs.

I see it's both.

Guess I'll "Do Nothing - DO NOT CALL THE COURTS." haha!

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Re: postcard format
[info]schlomoseamus
2007-06-22 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Yeah!

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clarification
(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 10:18 pm UTC (link)
FAIR ISAAC is not a law firm representing clients.
Fair Isaac Corporation (NYSE: FIC), founded in 1956 by engineer Bill Fair and mathematician Earl Isaac, provides consulting services and enterprise decision management systems. They developed the FICO scores, a measure of credit risk, that are the most used credit scores in the world. FICO scores are available through all of the major consumer reporting agencies in the United States and Canada: Equifax, Experian and TransUnion. (FICO is a registered trademark of Fair Isaac Corporation).

Fair Isaac's current corporate headquarters are located in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA with offices in North America, South America, Europe, Australia, and Asia. The company employs about 3,000 people (2006) with revenue of about $800 million (2005).

Just FYI

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Re: clarification
[info]schlomoseamus
2007-09-12 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the clarification.

Now I want to go back to the original notification and see if I got the name of the lawyer wrong.

Frankly it doesn't change the nature of the discussion, but I wonder if I misread it or if Fair Isaac has some other role.

So my question on this: Assuming that it is Fair Isaac, why are they mentioned in this class action suit?

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Re: clarification
(Anonymous)
2007-09-14 10:41 pm UTC (link)
Fair Isaac is one of the defendants. There are two defendants: Equifax and Fair Isaac. If you bought services from both Equifax and Fair Isaac you can get up to 6 months total service through Score Watch, instead of just 3 months.

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FAIR ISSAC
[info]imsharonss
2007-09-13 10:44 pm UTC (link)
That is a good question about why they are namrd in the lawsuit. I have gotten the e-mails because my husband and I were both subscribers to SCORE WATCH, but I am uncertain what the actual allegation consisted of. I didn't read it too well just mainly out of lack of interest because it is like you said...I can't get excited over being awarded one free candy bar or some other trivial item...lol. Maybe you can explain to me the actual wrong-doing that resulted in the award.

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2008-01-04 12:37 pm UTC (link)
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